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Gammerz

BritishBean Covid: Double vaccinated can still spread virus at home

Jonbwfc

In terms of current numbers in the U.K., the problem is much more ‘people who have been fully vaccinated early on but whose immunity is waning because they haven’t had a booster’ catching it from members of their family - predominantly school age children, among whom roughly 1 in 10 are apparently infected at the moment - than the other way around.

Essentially the ‘unboosted elderly’ are no more of a threat than anyone else, but the risk to them is slightly increasing over time. And the most infectious group, statistically, are schoolchildren who have had no vaccination at all. Mix those two together…

Brave

Heads up for Scottish Clods

https://www.nhsinform.scot/vaccinebooking

The booster portal just opened. It’s understandably Very slow and may not seem like it’s responding. Give it a minute after each submission and you should be good.

If you’re like me and just got letters to tell when to turn up for your jab, you might have to set up your account. You do this by starting the “recover username” process. It’ll tell you that your account hasn’t finished being set up and then you do the usual password stuff

Was pretty easy to go through tbh. And it has your vaccination status, details of all your jabs and any booked ones as well. When I logged in I discovered I have a booster appointment within the next ten days.

Gordon

Brave Thanks for that, got my booster booked.

GassyHaggis

Brave cheers for that. Apparently I have an appointment scheduled. Would never have known.

Jogort

January is 6 months for me so no booking showing yet. I’ll book it nearer the time. Thanks for the link

Jonbwfc

Jogort I think they’ve shortened it to five months (at least in the U.K., not sure where you are right now) so you should be able to get one before Christmas at least.

Jogort

Jonbwfc in Scotland but on the NHS Scotland thing it said 6 months. I see they’re now saying for anyone over 40 but it didn’t have that option yet. Just the usual groups and over 50.

Alex

Yeah according to that page I’m not eligible for it either.

DrDamn

As someone who has to report kids test results for schools all the time I have to mention what a shit show of a UI the NHS COVID-19 lateral flow reporting website is.

Normal website:

Click login
Enter username / password
In

Report an LFT result website:

Scroll down
Click Start now >
Select Sign-in -> Continue
Enter email -> Continue
Acknowledge their awesomeness in finding that you do have an account -> Continue
Enter Password -> Continue
In

🤷 Who designed this, who reviewed it and who at any point thought - yep nailed it!

At least beyond this point it’s actually improved a lot and it’s easy to report for multiple people.

BritishBean

DrDamn Acknowledge their awesomeness in finding that you do have an account -> Continue

Haha I’ve seen this before I think when trying to book a test for myself. I did find that amusing.

Working for MOD, I quite often oversee the implementation of new bespoke UX/UI apps and we mandate that they follow the Gov.Uk design principles. We’ve never ended up with a poorly thought out sign-in process though so not sure what NHS’s excuse is.

Jonbwfc

DrDamn

DrDamn Who designed this, who reviewed it and who at any point thought - yep nailed it!

I think maybe the people who designed the conversation UI in Animal Crossing : New Horizons?

MadAndy

BritishBean which NHS? - there are 4 of them 😀

But I suspect you’ll find in the majority of cases decisions are often by those who do not have a ‘solid grounding’ in interface design. Would I trust then to sort out my Carbnapenem Resistant Enterobacter? - hell yes. Come up with a reasonable interface? - nope.

You can say this makes no sense until you’re blue in the face. I’ve been in 3 hour meetings, saying that, all developers saying the same - ‘ we aren’t designing this for clinicians but the public - they have different expectations’ Feel like you start moving on and bang, original lead moves on and in comes new one. Back to square one.

BritishBean

MadAndy and sometimes it’s not even the people directly involved in the project to make silly decisions. I’m part of a programme at the moment that’s in the public domain and at the top of the very senior food chain there has been an ‘interesting’ and perhaps foolish decision not supported by the programme team which could backfire significantly and publicly.

Gammerz

We’ll all be ‘jabbed, recovered or dead’, warns German health minister. What an appalling, irresponsible and inaccurate thing for a health minister to say. Germany survived last Xmas with fewer people vaccinated and there are people still alive!

And we’ve got the 2nd highest infection rates in Europe.

Jonbwfc

Gammerz TBF, it’s not a new sentiment. I heard quite a few medical types talking about Delta COVID with it’s higher transmission rate and they basically said ‘you’ve either got to be vaccinated, had delta, or you’re going to get delta’, the idea you just might get lucky and not catch it no longer applied.

Brave

Just got a jab in each arm. The booster was Pfizer this time around.

I reckon I won’t be sim racing for the next few days. I can already feel it in my shoulder muscles and I’m still at the venue, waiting to see if I explode.

Brave

Yeah… so… ow.

Left arm is not so bad right now. Right is fucked, all the way to my finger tips. More than that, just really really tired. No surprise I guess. That’s what two vaccines will likely do.

I suspect my own broken, overactive immune system is probably making it worse than it will be for others though. Oh, and news on that front; hospital finally did a massive battery of blood tests and, surprise, found evidence that my immune system is indeed compromised. Something I’ve been saying for 8 years. So progress at least.

There’s a 50% chance it’s lupus, but if not I still have a smoking gun that says it’s something. Got to do more tests, including a 36 hour ecg in the new year. That’s going to be fun. Not.

Upshot is that if it is lupus, there’s a possibility that I should have been shielding. Not sure what to think about that. I guess I already was effectively shielding anyway because I’ve always been certain that my immune system is the central problem.

Jogort

Brave

Brave Good and bad news I guess on that mate, good that they’ve found something though and can then move onto finding how to deal with it for you, fingers crossed.

DrDamn

I guess that counts as progress if nothing else, and at perhaps means management becomes easier or can be better targeted?

Pfizer does seem to knock people out for a day or so. I had that with my second jab, got home and just fell asleep on the sofa. My wife who was more or less fine with first two jabs was taken out for a day - tiredness - with the booster.

Jonbwfc

DrDamn the main issue I had with the booster was the sore arm - couldn’t sleep on it for a couple of days afterwards. I had more tiredness etc. with my second ‘normal’ jab - I had two AZ initially and Pzr as a booster.

@Brave As for shielding - generally all you missed out on is idiotic letters from the Department of Health every few months that said “please don’t go out or you might die!” Followed by one that said “It’s fine now, go lick lampposts if you want”. So, yeah…

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