Xbox Series X Discussion

Brave

And just to illustrate the incredibly surprising problem ms have given what they do for a living, they’ve just done it again.

https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-releases-critical-windows-10-security-update-which-doesnt-work

This is my big worry with them next gen. It’s not that it won’t be an amazing machine, or that it will be great value for gamepass, or that they won’t have great Xbox games.

It’s that their development culture right now seems absolutely in a blind rush and they are making things worse with every panicked update they put out.

It’s bad enough with Windows. But when people start forking out a rumoured 600 sovs for the next machine it’ll be another matter entirely.

BritishBean

Brave

Brave But when people start forking out a rumoured 600 sovs for the next machine it’ll be another matter entirely.

600… where did you hear that? If that’s the case then I don’t think I’ll be diving in on day one.

Fumanstu

I’d put quite a lot of money, given what I do for a living, that this is absolutely no different to anytime MS (or anyone else) put a patch out. It’s just that someone thought it would make for a good news story. I don’t disagree with your point, MS need to be very careful (along with any tech giant) but you’ll never be in the position that software will work for 100% of the people 100% of the time.

Brave

I actually don’t think it’ll be that high, but it seems to be the general assumption for the higher end series X. I’ve seen that figure used by a couple of folk who’ve been pretty spot on in the past and are generally careful about what they say.

I think it would be suicidal to come in that high though. They only thing that makes me wonder if there’s something to it is the fact that they’ve introduced this phone style monthly payment system and upgrade system.

Edit: and the fact that they’ve said there won’t be a series X exclusive for quite some time. They’re setting the series X up to be a seriously premium option for Xbox users. It all just feels like grist to the early adopter mill.

DrDamn

MS dropping some bombs here …

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/02/24/what-you-can-expect-next-generation-gaming/?ocid=Platform_soc_omc_xbo_tw_Video_lrn_2.24.1

12TF as a figure confirmed. RDNA2 confirmed. Lots more info at the link.

Fumanstu

Unless it comes with 32 twizzlesticks and a 128bit donut pipeline with XHSC, I’m not buying.

DrDamn

Hopefully it’s a preemptive info dump as they know Sony is about to talk again. If we can have confirmation that the two machines are more or less twins we can move onto what that means for games.

DrDamn

Apparently Lockhart news is incoming early this week. Today or tomorrow. Interesting to see what this turns out to be and how big a gap price wise MS can accommodate with it.

Gammerz

I bought a core X360! Useful until I got internet access, but probably wasn’t a great strategy for MS. The Sony PS3 HDD only idea was better.

DrDamn

The strategy for this one is a more affordable entry into the next-gen XBox Series ecosystem. Will do everything (*) an XSX will do but just at 1080p/1440p instead of 4K. It could be a really clever idea if they can price it low enough. I.e. I expect XSX to be $500/£450, XSS needs to be $300/£280.

(*) Except play or install from disc.

Jogort

Reading a few rumours lately of Sony doing the same, a lower powered ps5 and a pro version both available at launch. Whether there’s any truth in it I’ve no idea.

DrDamn

Jogort that particular rumour has very poor foundations. One of those “insider” posts a garbled and contradictory rumour on a forum and several “news” sites run with it for clicks. I think mid gen refreshes are likely but there will only be one PS5 launched this year.

SRR

The launch will be a “Digital Event” now after the cancellation of e3.

DrDamn

Full specs and analysis from DF

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs

Looks like some impressive and clever design. Particularly in terms of BC.

DrDamn

CPU 8x Cores @ 3.8 GHz (3.66 GHz w/ SMT) Custom Zen 2 CPU
GPU 12 TFLOPS, 52 CUs @ 1.825 GHz Custom RDNA 2 GPU
Die Size 360.45 mm2
Process 7nm Enhanced
Memory 16 GB GDDR6 w/ 320mb bus
Memory Bandwidth 10GB @ 560 GB/s, 6GB @ 336 GB/s
Internal Storage 1 TB Custom NVME SSD
I/O Throughput 2.4 GB/s (Raw), 4.8 GB/s (Compressed, with custom hardware decompression block)
Expandable Storage 1 TB Expansion Card (matches internal storage exactly)
External Storage USB 3.2 External HDD Support
Optical Drive 4K UHD Blu-Ray Drive
Performance Target 4K @ 60 FPS, Up to 120 FPS

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-tech/

Gammerz

Will the expansion cards work on any other systems?

DrDamn

Gammerz you mean to take them round a friend’s place with your games installed? Or do you want to use them on a PC?

Gammerz

DrDamn Other PC. I think they’re XBox specific, rather like the old X360 memory cards?

DrDamn

Gammerz Yes, links in to special decompression chip and the rest of the system. It’s not just the card that is custom but the interface too.

Gammerz

Just found this about external expansion. Must run new games off internal or proprietary external faster SSD drives. Maybe use existing external drives to transfer onto faster SSD.

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