PS5 Pro

DrDamn

Performance wise it was exactly what I was expecting. Fidelity mode but at 60fps. Price was a good £100 over what I was expecting but the 2TB SSD balances that a little. On the plus side it looks like they have gone all the way through their own catalogue and have stuff covered from launch onwards (e.g. Demon’s Souls). They also have notable third party buy in (Dragon’s Dogma, Hogwarts etc).

Not bothered about no drive as I’ve been all digital for a while now, so I’m still in. The baulking at the price should hopefully make it easier to get hold of.

Gordon

I wonder if the price will affect how many developers are willing to put significant effort into Pro-specific features. Some of the previewed games had additional effects over and above improved RT, resolution and framerates but is anyone outside of Sony going to bother?

DrDamn

Gordon vast majority I can see just going for the basics of fidelity mode at 60fps. It’d be nice to see a version of Minecraft which does the full ray tracing thing, but I can’t see that happening for some reason…

Gordon

That USB port is really annoying though…

Alex

Oof 700 smackaroonies is steep.

DrDamn

We’ve clearly got Jim to thank for the price, but also Phil. Because if MS were stronger then it’d be cheaper I think.

Deej

It’s a bit too rich for me. Despite plenty of previous I won’t be biting this time.

Not sure my eyes can see the difference these days!

Brave

Deej I’m honestly the same. I’m quite happy with performance mode in every game as it stands. I couldn’t see enough of a difference to move the needle for me and I like shiny graphics.

Gordon

I’ve got a 15% off PSN voucher from when Sony sent my headphones a day late. That brings it down to £595, which is still absurd but I might actually cave. PS6 is probably 4 years away.

Gordon

Brave

I mean. If you have to flick between the two to see even the slightest difference…

From my own experience as a photographer, if I’m doing that with two variations of an image, I was actually finished ages ago.

Gordon

I don’t think these are great examples because Sony’s games tend to have pretty decent IQ even in performance mode. There have been a few games recently where the resolution difference between performance and quality modes is really jarring though. FFXVI is one - in performance mode, it’s really muddy and hard to make out what’s going on at times with all the particles and other stuff flying around. Looks great in quality mode, but then it feels like shit because combat is very fast paced. FFVII Rebirth is even worse in performance mode, it looks very low res.

If the Pro can fix cases like that it would be a genuinely noticeable improvement, not just visually but in how the game plays. Not saying there’s £700 worth of improvement to be had, mind you.

Alex

It’s always this way with modern graphics, we stopped getting graphical leaps a couple of generations ago, even something big like TLOU remake requires a side-by-side to really appreciate the differences. My understanding is the main difference between pro and vanilla will be image quality and framerate, both things you can’t really see from a compressed image.

DrDamn

Alex yep, the sources for those comparisons is YouTube.

Gammerz

Why do devs always try to push a console beyond its limits? They’re opening a can of worms - first there was the option of speed vs graphics in software and now this is extending into hardware, having multiple performance versions of the same console. One of the main attractions of a console is to have a level playing field without all this game spec requirements checking of PC gaming - yes it’ll run but at what speed or graphics standard?

Gordon

Looks like they fixed FFVII Rebirth on the Pro

DrDamn

Gordon it’s pretty impressive. Image quality exceeds the PS5 graphics mode (for the most part) and runs at 60fps. This is with the PS5 Pro rendering at a lower internal resolution but PSSR upscaling being impressively good if I understood the article?

Gordon

DrDamn Yeah I think so. It’s possible most titles won’t see such an obvious improvement though. Rebirth is really noticeably blurry in performance mode on PS5, it’s kind of a mess.

Gordon

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2024-ps5-pro-hands-on-preview-is-it-worth-it

Some really nice upgrades here. Dragon’s Dogma 2 is interesting. It goes from 30ish to 50ish FPS in the worst case which is inside the VRR window so should look nice and smooth, and is upscaled to 4K. Hopefully bodes well for Monster Hunter Wilds. I’m in if I can get one.

The F1 game looks great, wish I was interested in playing it.

Alex

That DF video has sold me on it a bit more than before.

Gordon

Alex There’s a waiting room on the PS Direct website already

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